We talk to Andrew Fox, Orange County Soccer Club defender and legendary trivia figure.
We talk about his unconventional journey to the USL, playing non-league in England, college scholarship in Texas, back to the English Football League before back to America.
We also talk about his red card for Grimsby Town against Crystal Palace - the first player in the UK to be sent off following a VAR review.
Fox tells us the detail of this extraordinary career footnote, why he loves football in the US and we talk promotion/relegation and fan banter.