We talk to Richard Hyde, the British Consul General based in Texas.
A keen Liverpool fan, he talks about England's defeat to Italy, the racism that followed the game but then the outpouring of support that followed.
We talk about poorly-behaved England fans, how much better things are nowadays and the risks of social media giving a voice to those who don't deserve it.
He talks about his experiences watching John Barnes as a young Liverpool fan, the racism he saw then and being on the beach in Marseilles when England fans rioted in 1998.
A candid and insightful discussion with a modern diplomat about racism in Britain and how he is proud how the country reacted to it.